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Post by s01sg on Nov 7, 2005 4:42:36 GMT 8
My AT's rear block got engine oil leaking(from top i think).  Also i feel that the engine is more noisy and rough now. the Smoooth feelin gone Sending to shop tommorow, but would like some advice from gurus here to get some insight bout the problem. (dun want to rely 100% on wat Mr Mech says :  Bikes done bout 50k so far.. Anyone else come across this problem?? Mobil 1 supersyn (the gold one) good or not? or Maxum? anyone tried these oils. Advice appriciated!! Thank You!! |
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azly
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Post by azly on Nov 7, 2005 12:11:12 GMT 8
Hi sg101,
My theory for engine oil is simple.No matter what oil,there must be sufficient to lubricate your engine.I've seen some people neglecting the engine oil once they use hi-grade synthetic oil.To me,synthetic oil is just a waste of money for at v-engine.Too thin but some others swear by it.A good compromise will be semi-synthetic 10W-50.
About your leaking block,normal.It's just the cheap gasket.If you DIY should cost you peanuts!Definitely not N*F peanuts!Since you have to remove the vavle cover,it makes sense to give your tappets(valve clearance adjustment) a tweak.Remember when doing it,both front and rear block must be done.I have seen some mech doing only the rear as the front is less accessible.Make sure you wait on the bike and if the fella says doing just the rear would suffice,you tell him straight in the face 'KHUN MAI KHOR HOCK'!As for the costing for these,pretty subjective.I dun wanna reccommend any place but there are a few good places.
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Post by Wes on Nov 7, 2005 12:56:58 GMT 8
Go check if the so called leaking is from your Spark Plugs, if it is, then just need to make sure you replace the Plugs and secure it properly. About the engine sound rough... i think this is more on your own feel... engine wont sound funny overnight or after 50K.
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Post by s01sg on Nov 10, 2005 1:07:32 GMT 8
DONE!!  and thanks Azly i took yr advice on the engine oil. Anyway the leak was b'cus of the gasket and not the plugs. But changed the plugs, gasket and did a complete service anyway. All seems fine now. BTW wat does "'KHUN MAI KHOR HOCK"mean anyway?  THanks!! ;D |
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Post by luciano on Nov 13, 2005 12:22:17 GMT 8
hi s01g,
mine is leak too..may i know where u change it n how much?u change front n rear rite?...also want to know where is the best place to go for 100,000km servicing...n would cost how much?what does the mechanoc change?..thanx.
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Post by duke900 on Nov 13, 2005 19:49:29 GMT 8
s01g,
"Kun Mai Khor Hock" means "You dont't bluff/tell lies".
Cheers!
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Post by atmadness on Dec 22, 2005 18:43:38 GMT 8
Hi bros...
Me have this problem from long time already and juz came back from getting it fix at Planet Motor.Heard good reviews abt the shop from Sporebikes that its cheap and reliable so give them a try.
Got it fix for $80 for the rear top cam cover Gasket.Wow! $80 cheap meh...He say he need to chg something like all 3 parts of the gasket...me no expert so i just say 'oh ok thanks!'
how kena 'chop' ah?
Also my carburetor choke break and he replace for me a new one....$35
So I would like to know from the gurus is the price marketprice? Coz service and attitude wise is good and thinking of going there again to do normal serving...
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Post by eminorchua on Dec 24, 2005 8:38:12 GMT 8
Hi bros... Me have this problem from long time already and juz came back from getting it fix at Planet Motor.Heard good reviews abt the shop from Sporebikes that its cheap and reliable so give them a try. Got it fix for $80 for the rear top cam cover Gasket.Wow! $80 cheap meh...He say he need to chg something like all 3 parts of the gasket...me no expert so i just say 'oh ok thanks!' how kena 'chop' ah? Also my carburetor choke break and he replace for me a new one....$35 So I would like to know from the gurus is the price marketprice? Coz service and attitude wise is good and thinking of going there again to do normal serving... Bro Changing the gasket of the block a little big job. Needs to remove tank, can't remember must remove carb. SO paying $80.00 should be ok. |
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Post by Wes on Dec 24, 2005 10:15:17 GMT 8
I agreed with Andrew, it is like a mini top overhaul... most importantly you must monitor see if it still leak or not. After replacing your carb choke, your fuel consumption maybe improve, as all this while you could be riding on half choke.
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Post by atmadness on Dec 26, 2005 21:01:29 GMT 8
I agreed with Andrew, it is like a mini top overhaul... most importantly you must monitor see if it still leak or not. After replacing your carb choke, your fuel consumption maybe improve, as all this while you could be riding on half choke. Yeah I agree also lah I see him small size really have a hard time doing it haiz...So now been monitoring and so far no more leaks  ... Eh now wanna tell u guys tat my fuel consumption really improves! I mean REALLY improves drastically. Now I think milieage 24~26 km/l.Wow i can't believe it myself!  I think when I when to service my carb last time, the mech at Everbright break the choke without realizing it.So now I think can go back to my original milieage only now better! Oh yeah btw I did sent my bike to Loois to help tune my back last time when i had the FC problem.It got improved abit lah but now Woo Hoo! ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by elstrup on Feb 4, 2006 18:21:39 GMT 8
hi bros,
lately, i've noticed that my engine oil on my at keep diminishing from the lower mark of the engine oil dipstick whenever i travelled on long distances from touring rides. after each journey, i top it up to the upper level mark. but when i make the return trip, the same still keep happening to my engine oil going down from th upper level mark to the lower level mark. have not sent it to the bike shop yet have check that no leaking could be found. just want to get an honest opinion by the expert bros out there on what really is happenning. thanks...
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Post by eminorchua on Feb 4, 2006 19:27:11 GMT 8
Bro
The next time after you warm up sufficiently you may want to check for white smoke coming from the exhaust. Chances if no physical leaks could be worn out piston rings....
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Post by elstrup on Feb 4, 2006 19:49:56 GMT 8
Thanks bro,
I thought so too... But the funny thing is during warm up no white smoke is visible and my bike has only 30k to date on the mileage and it has only been around for 1.5 years since bought it new. if it is true, does it mean that the bike has to undergo overhaul and how much would it cost me to rectify the problem???
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Post by shift on Feb 5, 2006 7:21:39 GMT 8
U guys sound Pro in bikes..fully agreed with u it can be due to lower quality gasket, plugs loosen, piston rings worn out, etc...semi syn oil will do for season bike..and if it is necessary to repairs just do it not too worry abt cost brud...safety come first,money can make back rite...enjoy yr ride always...
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Post by azly on Feb 5, 2006 19:51:37 GMT 8
Elstrup,
RD07A model of Africa Twin is very notorious of stupid but simple problems like fuel pump,front speedo gears and leaking cam cover gasket.Even if you bike is brand new,it might have these problems.Very normal problems that a little money and effort will solve.
For your model,I've physically seen 2 bikes blowing the engine.One is a problem crankshaft bearing and the other because of carelessness,never check engine oil level.Both these 2 blokes pour in fully synthetic oil prior to their trip and after about 1500km.......shit happens.Don't know the actual reasons but I've ridden 2 previous older version of the AT and my current one,dun need to top up for Hatyai trip.A remarkable feat for something that's 10yrs old and it's still can manage about 170km/h.
As for your problem,maybe if you travel constantly at hi speed,there will be some oil burnt and if you using fully sync,it could be worse as the consistentcy is thinner.V-twin engine are built to be robust unlike inline which is more refined.The tolerance in building V engine is wide so it differs from one engine to another while inline engine are mostly built close to blueprint specs thus the use of fully sync oil is highly recommeded on inline engine.
Try using semi-sync for a change and monitor the difference.For all you now,there is no problem with the engine.It's just that you engine oil are vapourising out of the engine thru you crankcase breather hose.
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Post by elstrup on Feb 7, 2006 12:51:52 GMT 8
Hi Azly,
Thank you for your invaluable advice. Right now, I have just change it to the semi engine oil after using the fully ones all along. Will monitor the level after one week of riding. Hopefully, nothing out of the ordinary will happen again. Fingers cross... To all the other bruds out there, thanks for your advice. Cheers!!!
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Post by rahim on Feb 7, 2006 14:16:06 GMT 8
Elstrup, RD07A model of Africa Twin is very notorious of stupid but simple problems like fuel pump,front speedo gears and leaking cam cover gasket.Even if you bike is brand new,it might have these problems.Very normal problems that a little money and effort will solve. For your model,I've physically seen 2 bikes blowing the engine.One is a problem crankshaft bearing and the other because of carelessness,never check engine oil level.Both these 2 blokes pour in fully synthetic oil prior to their trip and after about 1500km.......shit happens.Don't know the actual reasons but I've ridden 2 previous older version of the AT and my current one,dun need to top up for Hatyai trip.A remarkable feat for something that's 10yrs old and it's still can manage about 170km/h. As for your problem,maybe if you travel constantly at hi speed,there will be some oil burnt and if you using fully sync,it could be worse as the consistentcy is thinner.V-twin engine are built to be robust unlike inline which is more refined.The tolerance in building V engine is wide so it differs from one engine to another while inline engine are mostly built close to blueprint specs thus the use of fully sync oil is highly recommeded on inline engine. Try using semi-sync for a change and monitor the difference.For all you now,there is no problem with the engine.It's just that you engine oil are vapourising out of the engine thru you crankcase breather hose. experience this before previously... and yes... downgrade from fully synthetic all the way to mineral base... problem 90% rectified... probably have to change oil at slightly shorter interval.... cheers... |
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Also i feel that the engine is more noisy and rough now. the Smoooth feelin gone 
and thanks Azly i took yr advice on the engine oil. Anyway the leak was b'cus of the gasket and not the plugs. But changed the plugs, gasket and did a complete service anyway. All seems fine now. 
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I think when I when to service my carb last time, the mech at Everbright break the choke without realizing it.So now I think can go back to my original milieage only now better!
